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The Feds Are Addicted to Pot -- Even If You Aren't

By Paul Armentano, AlterNet. Posted November 30, 2009.


The government keeps pushing the BS that pot is addictive and has serious health consequences. And no wonder -- lying about pot is a lucrative business.
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Marijuana's addiction potential may be no big deal, but it's certainly big business.

According to a widely publicized 1999 Institute of Medicine report, fewer than 10 percent of those who try cannabis ever meet the clinical criteria for a diagnosis of "drug dependence" (based on DSM-III-R criteria). By contrast, 32 percent of tobacco users and 15 percent of alcohol users meet the criteria for "drug dependence."

Nevertheless, it is pot -- not booze or cigarettes -- that has the federal government seeing red and clinical investigators seeing green. As I reported for AlterNet last year, the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), which overseas more than 85 percent of the world's research on controlled substances, recently appropriated some $4 million in taxpayers' dollars to establish the nation's first-ever Center for Cannabis Addiction. Its mission: to "develop novel approaches to the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of marijuana addiction."

Of course, what good is a research center if it isn't conducting clinical research? To this end, the U.S. National Institutes of Health recently made millions of dollars in grant funding available "to support research studies that focus on the identification, and preclinical and clinical evaluation, of medications that can be safe and effective for the treatment of cannabis-use and -induced disorders."

According to NIH's request for applications,

"Cannabis-related disorders (CRDs), including cannabis abuse or dependence and cannabis induced disorders (e.g., intoxication, delirium, psychotic disorder, and anxiety disorder), are a major public health issue. ... Nearly one million people are seeking treatment for marijuana dependence every year and sufficient research has been carried out to confirm that the use of cannabis can produce serious physical and psychological consequences.

"Currently, there are no medications approved by the Food and Drug Administration for the treatment of CRDs. Given the extent of the use of cannabis in the general population, and the medical and psychological consequences of its use … there is a great public health need to develop safe and effective therapeutic interventions. The need to develop treatments targeting adolescents and young adults is particularly relevant in view of their disproportionate use patterns."

Sounds dire, huh? It's meant to. But as usual, the devil is in the details.

First, there's the issue of the so-called "one million people seeking treatment for marijuana dependence." Or not. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Office of Applied Studies, Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), the actual number of persons seeking drug treatment for marijuana "as a primary substance at admission" in 2007 (the most recent year for which data is available) was 287,933. Still a large total to be sure, but even this tally is highly misleading. Think these folks are seeking treatment for pot "dependence?" Think again.

According to SAMHSA, over 37 percent of the estimated 288,000 thousand people who entered drug treatment for marijuana in 2007 hadn't used weed in the 30 days prior to their admission. Another 16 percent of those admitted said they'd only used cannabis three times or less in the month prior to their admission. Do these individuals sound like they meet the clinical standard of dependence (defined as "the state of being psychologically and physiologically dependent on a drug")? Hardly. In truth, the only reason these people are in "treatment" at all is because they were arrested with a small quantity of pot and were ordered to treatment in lieu of jail.

According to the Aug. 13, 2009 issue of The TEDS Report, published by SAMHSA, nearly six out of 10 individuals enrolled in drug treatment for marijuana are referred there by the criminal justice system. Stated the report, "In 2007, the criminal justice system was the largest single source of referrals to the substance abuse treatment system. [T]he majority of these referrals were from parole and probation offices."

In other words, it is not marijuana use per se that is driving treatment admission rates; it is cannabis prohibition and the increased emphasis on pot arrests that are primarily responsible. Yet you'd never know this by listening to NIDA. And that's just the way the agency wants it.

As for the feds' claim that today's pot "can produce serious physical and psychological consequences," it's apparent that the potential adverse effects of cannabis use are relatively minor when compared to those of legal drugs such as opiates (which are both physically habit-forming and capable of lethal overdose), alcohol (ditto) and tobacco. As for the potential physical and psychological consequences of kicking the pot habit, a newly published clinical trial in the scientific journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence raises some serious doubts about this fear as well.

Investigators at four separate German universities assessed the self-reported withdrawal symptoms of 73 subjects diagnosed with "cannabis dependence" who resided in an inpatient facility. Overall, investigators determined that fewer than 50 percent of the trial subjects reported experiencing physical or psychological withdrawal symptoms of any clinical significance, even though all of the patients had a diagnosis of cannabis dependence according to DSM-IV criteria. Further, among the minority who did report such symptoms, "The intensity of most self-reported symptoms peaked on day one and decreased subsequently."

And just what were the most commonly reported symptoms? The authors concluded: "The most frequently mentioned physical symptoms of strong or very strong intensity on the first day were sleeping problems (21 percent), sweating (28 percent), hot flashes (21 percent), and decreased appetite (15 percent). ... Other often highly rated psychological symptoms included restlessness (20 percent), nervousness (20 percent), and sadness (19 percent)."

In short, marijuana's withdrawal symptoms, when documented at all, are mild and subtle compared to the profound physical syndromes associated with ceasing chronic alcohol or heroin use, which can be fatal, or those abstinence symptoms associated with daily tobacco use, which are typically severe enough to persuade individuals to reinitiate their drug-taking behavior. This explains why most pot smokers voluntarily cease their cannabis use by age 30 with little physical or psychological difficulty.

Finally, what about NIDA's claim that "therapeutic interventions" for marijuana dependence are necessary for adolescents and young adults "given the extent of the use of cannabis in the general population." Ironically, NIDA's warnings come at a time when marijuana use rates among young people are falling -- and have been for some time. According to the feds' annual "Monitoring the Future" study on adolescent drug use, roughly 42 percent of 12th graders admitted having tried pot in 2008, down from 50 percent in 1999, and a whopping 60 percent in 1979. Yet back then the federal government was mum regarding the need for medications to treat so-called cannabis dependence.

Not anymore. On November 3, the Kentucky-based pharmaceutical company All Tranz Inc. announced it had been awarded a $4 million NIDA research grant to promote a "transdermal tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) patch" for the treatment of marijuana dependence and withdrawal. (THC is the primary psychoactive ingredient in cannabis.) "NIDA is interested in exploring the role of transdermal THC delivery as an innovative way to treat marijuana withdrawal symptoms and dependence," explained the agency's director, Nora Volkow. "This is especially relevant to our efforts to fill a critical gap in available treatments for the many Americans struggling with marijuana-related disorders and their detrimental medical and social consequences."

Never mind that THC permeates the skin, at best, slowly and inefficiently (because of the compounds’ fat solubility) or that the symptoms of marijuana dependence and withdrawal are infrequent, short-lived and relatively insignificant. After all, NIDA has a research center to staff, tax dollars to spend and a myth to perpetuate. And the feds aren’t about to let the facts get in the way.

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Paul Armentano is the deputy director of NORML (the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), and is co-author of the book Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink (2009, Chelsea Green).

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Don't believe the hype!
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Nov 30, 2009 12:57 AM   
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For the uninitiated, the fastest way to cut through all the BS is to simply roll one up. Then you can see through all the lies.


The fastest way to deal with the criminal enterprise surrounding it? De-criminalization! The downside is the double edged sword, for if this miracle of legislation ever comes to pass, the inevitable commercialization of pot begins. Next thing you know, a mutant GM pot strain will threaten to contaminate everything. I wouldn't doubt it if Monsanto has already done the ground work and has the patent application ready to go.

Monsanto could kill your buzz! Literally!

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» RE: Monsanto could kill your buzz! Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE:All I know about Monsanto Posted by: linecrosser
» Monsanto Posted by: InsertNameHere
it is mainly about religious prejudice (against Native Americans) and various kinds of abuse
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Nov 30, 2009 2:01 AM   
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I am ready to talk about it as a religious prejudice issue, it is you know. The medical arguments are all nonsense.

It is a very useful drug. It was interesting to see that the symptoms of withdrawal are exactly the kinds of things it is used to treat. I wouldn't call that withdrawal, I would call it wearing off. All medicines do that, even Tylenol.

I was going to call Lisa Chrisman yesterday and ask her if she wanted to talk before I published her name as one of my tormentors, but the more I thought about what I could say or her likely reaction, the less reason I could think for it.

I wanted to give her one last chance to be a real 'sister' to a fellow girl scout before I publish what evil thing she did to me. As for living girl scout values, she sucks.

I drove by her house too, thinking of knocking on the door. There were lots of cars, holiday, etc. I just went home. She ruined my life.

She didn't do it all by herself, of course, but she was a mover and shaker. It centered in scouts and is all about religion. As my daughter's leader, she was in a terrific position to teach her to hate me. It worked.

The D.A.R.E. program in school was instrumental, many churches, people and other things, I am still working it out. My baby was abused, which really messed up her brain. I had no idea. She was always a handful and constantly a challenge, so I was always asking for help from trusted people with her, including Lisa. I thought we were friends, 'sisters'.

Big mistake on my part.

Of course that is why topics like drugs are the ones girl scout leaders get signed permission slips from parents about before they go there. I don't remember signing any thing giving Lisa permission to teach her attitude about drugs, drugs IS one of those sensitive issues.

I would never have consented to that. It happened anyway, breaking the rules and blind siding me.

Not for the first time, the first time was my mother in law taking her to church. I was shocked by the stuff she came home with. Honestly, it was hate speech against my own religion.

Why all these 'religious' people wanted to turn my daughter into a hate-your-mother is beyond me.

I don't understand it but I am right in the middle of it. It is a miserable place to be.

It is also useful if you want to solve it. I do. I want my family back. I don't see any reason for them to be treating me like a pariah.

Since my family has been pressured by people like Lisa to treat me that way (it is very abusive) I'd kinda like Lisa to tell me why she thinks it is OK for them to treat me that way. Maybe she can ask her husband.

There is no denying it, she abhors me for pot smoking and teaches that completely unreasonable attitude to her kids.

I think she can explain WHY to me now, why besides from her own prejudice and ignorance does she do that to me? What did I do to deserve it?

I don't know.

I do know she is cosy with the boy scouts and they are cosy with the police. It took a group to destroy me, but they did it. I think that is an actual conspiracy to actually commit torture.

It worked. I am tortured. I cry a lot. Yesterday I went to the movies and while I was waiting I sat in front of Borders and cried. I figured all these people in town wanted to make me cry, they might as well see me doing it. Get their schadenfraude for christmas.

I make up little songs about how many lawyers I have interested in my case and sing it to the torturer across the street, I have a feeling it is a very large number. Or, I like to think so. It is reassuring. I don't have much else to reassure me and I truly hate him. He conspired with the local police to torture me and paid someone to do it.

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» You are not a victim.. Posted by: henderson
» RE: You are not a victim.. Posted by: untameable
» or not..... Posted by: permanentilt
Tobacco and Pot tenatively linked to reducing Alzheimers
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 30, 2009 3:21 AM   
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If not also caffine. What other immediate cognitive benefits might they facilitate as well?
Do these particular stimulants enhance our intellectual abilities, not hinder them? The aspirtion to Dumb down the American Public is obvious when you turn on Cable news, esp FOX.
Whos' method of repetativeness has an eerie resemblance to the 'logic' that inspired the 'healthcare professionals' in "Clock Work Orange". It's no longer subliminal indoctrination but in your face, emotion provoking repetition. Same Results of undue influence (programmed perception) irrespective of methodology. It too should be illegal.

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happy toker
Posted by: grmartin on Nov 30, 2009 4:32 AM   
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I'm 60 years old, been smoking 1/2 to 1 joint almost daily since my teens, and enjoy it like a good cup of coffee. I think its good for me, my health is excellent. I know its not addictive because I was hooked on tobacco from my teens to age 32, no comparison at all to that thoroughly evil substance. Enjoy your pot, fight for your rights, and join NORML.

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» RE: happy toker Posted by: bwaren
» RE: happy toker Posted by: TOD2
» RE: medicine Posted by: TOD2
» RE: medicine Posted by: kettleblack
» RE: medicine Posted by: TOD2
» RE: happy toker Posted by: rsteeb
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» RE: happy toker Posted by: tvaspen
Pot "not addictive"
Posted by: jkilccdc on Nov 30, 2009 5:15 AM   
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If you don't think "pot" is addictive try contacting people who are experts. Forget the scientific arguments. Just talk to friends who, when they are being honest, about their relationship with "pot" will admit that they can't stop smoking it. I know more than a few. Though considered benign when compared to alcohol, heroin, etc "pot" is more subtle in its influence on behavior and creates dependency neurochemically just like any other drug.
Why advocate for impairment? Why not advocate for freedom from bondage to any drug? kil

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» RE: Pot "not addictive" Posted by: bwaren
» expert Posted by: permanentilt
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» RE: Pot "not addictive" Posted by: tony_opmoc
» RE: Pot "not addictive" Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Video Games "not addictive" Posted by: kettleblack
» RE: Pot "not addictive" Posted by: rsteeb
» so lock em up if they... Posted by: zowie
This blew me away
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Nov 30, 2009 5:19 AM   
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Time to Trot Out [the Probable Corpse of] bin Laden as a Tool for War Propaganda

Now before engaging in Mr. Griffin’s compelling case that bin Laden very well may be dead, I need to take a second to process the freeing but startling experience of putting down the rather rancid by now national kool-aid, and question the authority that is my government. My and our dysfunctional government.

The profound realization for me, personally, upon being posed such a question by Mr. Griffin, is that I had not entertained it myself before now. I blithely trusted the idea that bin Laden was alive because my government did not tell me otherwise.


I find that rather terrifying.

I know bin Laden and 9/11 seems off topic to the drug war, but what I'm referring to is the pattern of being lied to. It surprises me that a liberal blogger over at Firedoglake would only now be having this realization.

Sounds like the drug war, don't it?

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Who profits from prohibition?
Posted by: willymack on Nov 30, 2009 5:33 AM   
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Come on; who?
Who profited from the original Prohibition?
Why, the same thugs and "respectable" Pillars of the Community who do now, that's who.
Am I saying anything you don't already know?
Hardly.

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» RE: Who profits from prohibition? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
BOYCOTT THESE BRANDS!!!!!
Posted by: aahpat on Nov 30, 2009 6:55 AM   
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As long as this poster continues to abuse the posting policy of this forum all brand names posted in this thread should be boycotted.

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» RE: BOYCOTT THESE BRANDS!!!!! Posted by: Sister_Lauren
DRUG POLICY REFORM SENATE COMMITTEE POLITICAL ACTION ALERT!!!!
Posted by: aahpat on Nov 30, 2009 6:51 AM   
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This post is to alert everyone I can to the important U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee hearing for Virginia Sen. Jim Webb's S-714, "To establish a national criminal justice commission". This legislation is the best chance in nearly forty years we have to roll back the electoral subversions of Richard Nixon's Jim Crow Drug War.

Sen. Webb has even indicated that marijuana legalization is "On the table".

I have posted more information and committee contact information in order for drug reform supporters to contact the committee this week to show their support for this important bill going into the hearings. The bill, thus far, has 35 co-sponsors and can use all of the voter support it can get. Please consider alerting your senators and friends, in advance of this hearing, so that they may take timely action.

I have all needed information posted on my blog, Aid & comfort, in the post:

Drug War Related Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing

Thanks for your time.

Aid & comfort blog

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marijuana
Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 30, 2009 7:04 AM   
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A pamphlet entitled 10 Things Every Parent, Teenager and Teacher Should Know About Marijuana produced by the Family Council on Drug Awareness tells us marijuana is not physically addictive. The 1980 Costa Rican study, the 1975 Jamaican study and the 1972 Nixon Blue Ribbon Report all concluded that marijuana use does not lead to physical dependency. The FBI reports that 65 to 75 percent of criminal violence is alcohol-related. On the other hand, Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger testified before Congress in 1948 that marijuana leads to nonviolence and pacifism.

In a message to Congress on August 2, 1977, President Jimmy Carter insisted: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."

Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Law Judge Francis L. Young wrote on September 8, 1988: "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

After years of suppression by the government, the truth about medical marijuana is finally coming out. Dr. Tod Mikuriya, former director of marijuana research for the entire federal government, wrote in 1996: "I was hired by the government to provide scientific evidence that marijuana was harmful. As I studied the subject, I began to realize that marijuana was once widely used as a safe and effective medicine. But the government had a different agenda, and I had to resign."

Tobacco kills about 430,700 each year. Alcohol and alcohol-related diseases and injuries kill about 110,000 per year. Secondhand tobacco smoke kills about 50,000 every year. Aspirin and other anti-inflammatory drugs kill 7,600 each year. Cocaine kills about 500 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Heroin kills about 400 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Adverse reactions to prescription drugs total 32,000 per year, while marijuana kills no one.

A November 4, 2002 Time/CNN Poll found 80 percent of those polled said marijuana should be legal only for medicinal purposes. 72 percent said recreational users should get fines rather than jail time, which is essentially decriminalization. The complete legalization of marijuana was favored only by 34 percent of respondents, but this figure is twice as large as it was in 1986. Marijuana is safer than alcohol and tobacco, and our drug laws should reflect this reality.

According to a 2003 Zogby poll, two of every five Americans say “the government should treat marijuana the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and only make it illegal for children.” Close to 100 million Americans, including over half of those between the ages of 18 and 50, have tried marijuana at least once. Military and police recruiters often have no alternative but to ignore past marijuana use by job seekers.

In 1996, California voters passed a law to regulate medical marijuana within the state. In 2000, voters in California approved an initiative allowing people who are arrested for simple possession of drugs to go through a rehabilitation program rather than through the court process that would result in prison. Since the program began, most agree it has been very successful. It results in less recidivism and is considered cheaper than imprisonment.

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marijuana (cont'd)
Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 30, 2009 7:04 AM   
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Richard Posner, Chicago's chief judge of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and one of the nation's leading legal scholars, says marijuana use should be legalized as a way of reducing crime. Posner, a Reagan administration appointee once described by American Lawyer magazine as “the most brilliant judge in the country,” explained his views on marijuana in The Times Literary Supplement, a British publication, and in later interview:

“It is nonsense that we should be devoting so many law enforcement resources to marijuana," says Posner. "I am skeptical that a society that is so tolerant of alcohol and cigarettes should come down so hard on marijuana use and send people to prison for life without parole.”

Posner is the highest-ranking judge to publicly favor the repeal of marijuana laws. Several judges of the federal district court, a level lower than the appeals court, have made similar calls, including Robert Sweet of New York and James Paine of Florida, both Carter Administration appointees.

New York University law professor Burt Neuborne said it's significant that “one of the leading intellectuals in the judicial system recognizes that the laws don't seem to be working well.”

Posner and other federal judges have complained that sentencing guidelines force them to give unjustly severe prison sentences to relatively minor drug offenders. Says Posner: “Prison terms in America have become appallingly long, especially for conduct that, arguably, should not be criminal at all. Only decriminalization is a sure route to a lower crime rate. It is sad that it appears so far below the horizon of political feasibility.”

Rufus King, a Washington, DC lawyer who has served on the President's Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice, calls the drug war, “A worthless crusade.” According to King, drug use is a social problem, not a law enforcement problem. He observes: “Cigarette use is declining through changes in cultural values in the population. Like most smokers and alcoholics, most users of illegal drugs poison themselves because they want to be intoxicated. No human force can do them much good until they want help.” King is optimistic that the current anti-drug hysteria will subside, and responsible and reasonable drug law policies will be adopted.

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Know it. Fight it. End it.
Posted by: Richardsievert on Nov 30, 2009 7:16 AM   
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We confined ourselves to something for the benefit of it's usefulness like for instance a car. Once it no longer becomes useful we work hard to find something else just like this article' But there is much more here to this story' We have ten thousand families in every city inn our country that rely on housing prisoners for profit' Housing them, Feeding them, Clothing them as if they where in some kind of matrix witch they are in. What are these people supposed to do for work if this mysteriousness of this system was not there? If there gray road blocks where taken down there families and children and whole towns that support them. It is Armageddon that stares these towns in the face. Because it is not people they have locked up but there own
"Creativity to enter space' That's our challenge to our own guards who we cherish so mush. There the ones being used to lock up there own children when they go nuts' A sacrifice they have to make for a system that's not about us. How much is gold worth a billion miles from us. We should be inhabiting other planets by now not making a prison-planet one from the son.

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Feds, DEA, cops, prosecutors, courts, prison industry, etc., view illegal pot as huge job security &
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Nov 30, 2009 7:31 AM   
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make-work for themselves! They are not going to give this up easily, anytime soon!

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Can I get one of those patches?
Posted by: drmflorida on Nov 30, 2009 7:41 AM   
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It would make the work day more bearable.

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living in the past
Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 30, 2009 7:42 AM   
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We're in the Age of Obama! I'm amazed that the right wing continues to demonize progressive causes. Apparently, the Republican Party can be a "big tent" on abortion, but the animal rights movement cannot.

The animal rights movement is divided on a number of issues, including the means to achieve liberation. Some activists are opposed to companion animals, because "owning" other animals as property should be as unthinkable to us as owning other humans as property. Others can accept the idea of companion animals with the understanding that we are their guardians -- they are not our property, and we are not their owners.

Some activists accept euthanasia as a humane means of ending animal suffering, and as a necessary evil to the problem of pet overpopulation. Others, such as Nathan Winograd, who has written an entire book on the subject (Redemption), embrace a "no-kill" philosophy.

If other animals have rights, then membership in the human race is no longer the criterion for personhood. Pro-lifers have reason to be concerned...as do pro-choicers. In 1988, bioethicist Art Caplan was worried that giving rights to "lower" life forms such as animals would automatically mean giving rights to other "lower" life forms, such as the unborn--and that would mean the end of abortion.

Law professor Gary Francione tried to placate Art by saying, "I'm sure there's some way we can keep abortion legal." Pro-lifers mislead the public into thinking everyone in the animal rights movement is pro-choice, by quoting this statement ad nauseum, despite the fact things have changed considerably since 1988.

In a 1992 interview with conservative talk show host Dennis Prager, Ingrid Newkirk (Executive Director, PETA) said the animal rights movement is divided on abortion. A 1998 cover story on abortion in the Animals' Agenda also discussed the debate within the animal rights movement over the abortion issue.

And in 2003 or 2004, on the Democrats-For-Life e-mail list, Maria Krasinski mentioned a poll which found animal activists evenly divided over the abortion issue. This is significant. It means either animal rights are a bipartisan cause (which conservatives can support as well as liberals), or it means many liberals are uncomfortable with abortion.

So the animal rights movement is divided on a number of issues, including euthanizing animals. PETA has taken flack from feminists within the animal rights movement, for example due to its use of supermodels and the "We'd Rather Go Naked Than Wear Fur" campaign.

PETA is 1.6 million strong, yet try and discuss animal rights (apart from religion) with Christians, and all they can think of is the MOVE !

peta2 is now the largest youth movement of any social change organization in the world. peta2 has 267,000 friends on MySpace and 91,000 Facebook fans.

A few years ago, PETA was the top-ranked charity when a poll asked teenagers what nonprofit group they would most want to work for. PETA won by more than a 2 to 1 margin over the second place finisher, The American Red Cross, with more votes than the Red Cross and Habitat for Humanity combined.

Similarly, the right wing continues to demonize marijuana users and advocates for its legalization.

According to a 2003 Zogby poll, two of every five Americans say “the government should treat marijuana the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and only make it illegal for children.”

Ron Paul and Barney Frank have introduced legislation in Congress to decriminalize marijuana, as has Tom Ammiano in the state of California. Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) says marijuana legalization is on the table.

We're in the Age of Obama! With regards to the right wing, I really have to wonder...what planet are these people living on?

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The Questions to ask
Posted by: aahpat on Nov 30, 2009 7:52 AM   
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1.) Is prohibition economically and socially viable?

2.) Which is better for society and children; having the morals of drug abusers, addicts and gangsters as the main value system between children and premature drug exposure? Or having regulated and licensed responsible adult supervision over drug sales. Adult supervision that reflects and respects the values of society against children having premature access to drugs.

Drug prohibition is a multi-billion dollar a year subsidy program for addicts and gangsters. The drug war PROHIBITS responsible adult supervision of drug sales.

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"How About The Truth For A Change"
Posted by: colonelpepper on Nov 30, 2009 9:17 AM   
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"How About The Truth For A Change"

That is my campaign slogan and will be the Battle Cry of the voters in the 2012 Presidential elections. I am running for President of the USA on a platform based on "The Truth For A Change", and on the absolute legalization of marijuana. Furthermore, I will pardon all prisoners currently serving time for marijuana charges of any kind. The laws against marijuana are "Repugnant to the Constitution" and shall become null and void upon my inauguration as the next President of the USA.


Other plans in the works are to unite all the drug war zealots currently in Law Enforcement positions that include the DEA, all State and Local police departments, sheriff, MArshals, Texas Rangers, NSA, the FBI and CIA, all into one very large and strong special forces unit. This group will be trained for a mission deep into Afghanistan to conquer and take over control the Opium Poppy production that is funding Terrorist Activities within the taliban, al-Qaeda, HAMAS and other like minded Islamic radicals.


As a fiscal conservative, I will be running on the GOP's, Republican Party for the nomination, and will if necessary break away from a forty year long association with the GOP and form a third party of basically liberal and reform minded moderate republicans and Democrats who prefer "The Truth For A Change".

Thank You for Your Support

Colonel Oliver Wimbleton Pepper IV, ESQ BMI
Colonel Pepper for President Esploratory Foundation
www.colonelpepper.com

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» form a third party Posted by: Grandma Crabby
I am a marjuana "addict"
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Nov 30, 2009 9:26 AM   
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Yup, I am. I admit it. I am as addicted to pot as one can get, no question about it.

Thing is though, I really enjoy it! Smoking pot is totally fun for me and there is basically NO downside, except of course that it is expensive and not good for my lungs. It is good for everything else though.

It helps me think better. It slows me down. (I need that) It eases my stress, anxiety and depression much better than anything else. It makes me more functional and "normal" in many ways.

I also take prozac for much the same reasons. I am addicted to Prozac as well. A few times when I have run out I fell into such a nonfunctional depressive funk that it was not even funny. Yup, after 15+ years of taking anti-depressants, my body is dependent on them.

When I run out of pot, it is no big deal really, I miss it but do not crash like I do when my body is out of prozac.

I used to smoke cigarettes and believe me, THAT was a physical addiction and pot addiction is NOTHING like that.

I get so sick and tired of pot being vilified. Compared to xanex, seroquel and lots of other pharmaseuticals I have tried, pot is BY FAR the most helpful and least damaging. It is not risk-free, nothing is. Taking too much aspirin can cause bleeding ulcers that can kill you. But the benefits outweigh the risks. By far. Plus, I could eat it or get a vaporizer and take care of the lung damage risk. I could grow my own to make it affordable. So, what risks does that leave? Getting busted.

Over the years, I have sometimes felt very guilty for smoking dope the way I do. Society's ban and attitude have tried very hard to get me to see dope as evil, but with me, the truth won out. I enjoy smoking pot and it adds immeasurably to my quality of life.

I began when I was 15 and quit when I was 25. Then picked it up again around age 45. All those years without give me something real to compare. No question in my mind, I am better off with a bit of dope to smoke. I actually like the lower grade stuff better because I need to use it daily. No matter what drug you are talking about, smaller, more even dosages are better. It is the wildly swinging up and down that creates problems. Same thing is true with cocaine. (I never liked coke.) But if people just chew the cocoa leaves, like the poor farmers in Columbia do, which gives them a trickle of a dose, they do not have the same problems as someone snorting the more potent powder.

Marijuana prohibition is stupid. Even if it WERE terribly addictive and harmful I do not need the stinking government to tell me how to live.

But truth is, even a die hard "addict" like me will tell you that having the worst case scenario with pot is a joyful thing. No hard core alcoholic could say that because alcohol is a wicked drug. Pot is not.

By the way, I am also addicted to diet cola and my iPod. I have an "addictive" personality. But I NEVER became addicted to the "hard core" stuff like cocaine. I managed to quit cigs and did not start smoking again even when I was around it 24-7, which caused my brain's long dormant physical addiction to kick in. I also have never become addicted to the sleeping pills or dozens of different anxiety pills my doctor gave me because I DID NOT LIKE THEM SO I STOPPED TAKING THEM. (Not counting the prozac, which I really need.) I like smoking pot so I will continue.

Luv,
Granny

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THC+++++ is hybrid pot
Posted by: zepher on Nov 30, 2009 9:51 AM   
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No one is mentioning the "new" pot which has much more of the stoning element in it than the normal, unhybridized pot. Yes, it is so high it is very toxic especially to young people. If a person can get non-hybridized (heritage) marijuana, the health effects are less. Even with milder pot, there are people who become depressed and have anxiety attacks, which is a horrible experience.

I wish people would not be so flippant and hipsterish about pot addiction. It takes months to get it out of your system because it is stored in fat cells. Women have a harder time rehabing from pot addiction because women have more fat cells than men. All you folks that think it isn't addictive should try withdrawing from it. Being in denial is very common in addictions. Do the research.

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» RE: THC+++++ is hybrid pot Posted by: tvaspen
» RE: THC+++++ is hybrid pot Posted by: Grandma Crabby
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» RE: THC+++++ is hybrid pot Posted by: Obijuan
» hahahahaha Posted by: zowie
dennis baker
Posted by: dbaker on Nov 30, 2009 10:17 AM   
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there is no war on drugs. the war is against the citizens.
Slavery still exists in North America but is "dressed up pretty", and disguised as the Justice System.
It is the legislated ability of Police Officials, to act regardless of usually applicable rights, where other offences do not give police liberties to suspend constitutional rights as they do to suspected drug offences.

Have you every thought of not electing/ reelecting officials, firing ( police chiefs)as long as the availability of non indigenous narcotics exists.

The sustainable growth of private prisons and the justice system depends on the bodies police provide for processing.

studies have shown that a vast majority of criminal activity is drug induced.

If they did not bring the drugs in themselves, the drugs would not on your street corner.

Your being played for suckers, while a chemical and biological attack is being launched on your country by your own security!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE&feature=related

Dennis Baker

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Industrial hemp should also be legal
Posted by: doctorsquared on Nov 30, 2009 10:22 AM   
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To help decrease demand for trees for paper and to replace (the utterly asinine, lobbyist-induced choice of) corn as a source of biofuels.

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at the very least, hemp should be legalized
Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 30, 2009 10:33 AM   
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Under our drug laws, even the growing of cannabis hemp -- the nonspyschoactive variety of the plant--is outlawed in order to enforce the marijuana laws.

Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications.

"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."

Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop. Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.

Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.

Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood. Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.

For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The George W. Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle." The U.S. is the only major industrialized nation that prohibits the growing of industrial hemp; anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.

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Farmers better not grow pot!--from a farmer
Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 30, 2009 10:49 AM   
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I farm in Nebraska. Every year, to get farm program benefits, I have to go into the local Farm Program office and sign-up.

One of the forms they make farmers sign is one that promises that you will not grow marijuana. If you do, there is a long list of scary injunctions and penalties that they (the feds) will throw at you: fines, banning from the USDA program, jail time!! And who knows--maybe also public humiliation and/or mutilation.


There are also big posters in the local USDA office with a marijuana leaf and the big "null" sign on top of it.

I think they are afraid that farmers might find that growing the evil hemp might pay better then growing corn of soybeans.

It's funny because my dad--and lots of his neighbors--grew hemp during WWII. It was one of the most profitable crops he ever raised and it did really good here in Nebraska (because of the hot dry July's and August's we get).

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Nothing government says has any truth to it
Posted by: joebanana on Nov 30, 2009 11:57 AM   
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Any branch of our corrupt government, lies about everything, EVERYTHING. It seems like that's their main function, just keep feeding bull sh*t to the people, and wasting tax money. Is that what we call a government? Is that what we want for government? Well, it's what we got.

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left out information
Posted by: jerryep138 on Nov 30, 2009 12:13 PM   
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Of all drug abuse and addiction - some 22 million cases- alcohol alone accounts for over 15 million. Another 3 million plus are alcohol in combination with other drugs. Most people who have a problem with marijuana have a simultaneous alcohol problem.

Many of the remaining 4 million cases are problems with prescription drugs, especially pain killers (about 1.7 million)

If all the prohibited drugs disappeared, the nation's drug problem would be little changed at all.

To simply say that current policy is irrational is too kind.

govt. data is briefly summarized at
Drug Use, Abuse and Dependence (Addiction) In America
http://www.dpft.org/duia.htm

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Problems are profitable
Posted by: P.E.A.C.E. on Nov 30, 2009 12:27 PM   
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Cannabis is an inconvenient solution for many problems that have been too profitable for too long. Our political system has rotted from our economic addiction to chemicals.

An Inconvenient Solution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44X9fsFr_7c

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as a mental health worker
Posted by: mwildfire on Nov 30, 2009 2:18 PM   
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for two years in the community mental health center which is the place people with drug problems were sent in my county, I saw a number of people with serious drug problems. Two or three of them were hooked on painkillers, three or four had a drinking problem, and let's see--I did have one young woman who was there for "help with her marijuana problem." She was not ordered to be there by the criminal justice system...she was ordered to be there by her employer, who found out she had smoked a joint at work. The employer ended up firing her despite her "seeking treatment," so since there was no evidence she had an actual drug problem, I closed her case.
One person above says we are in denial and need to study up on this, look at the evidence. The funny thing is every study that finds serious problems with pot use, gets replicated with very different results. The evidence I see is that there are some minor problems stemming from pot use--but the reasons it's illegal are not the very minor problems, but the fact that the profit would go out of this easy-to-grow drug overnight if it were legalized. There are ties between the Lords of the War on Drugs, and the top drug dealers.
I had lots of people coming to me with serious drug problems who could not get help. I couldn't find a bed for people seeking help with withdrawal, who didn't have health insurance (how many addicts have health insurance?) yet the government wants to waste money on pot treatment?

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» RE: as a mental health worker Posted by: richholland
BS the same as for tobacco
Posted by: wordmaster on Nov 30, 2009 4:41 PM   
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Yes, the BS about pot is much like the BS about the horrors of smoking tobacco.

The government makes a fortune on the taxes and big pharma makes a fortune selling their own nicotine delivery systems.

Therefore they must convince "someone" that there is a horrible threat so they can continue to profit from their BS.

If you take a close look at the health numbers and reports concerning tobacco, you find the same consistent BS the author has found concerning pot.

No, Virginia, smoking does not really kill you. No, Virginia, smoking most assuredly does not cost the government more than smokers pay. No, Virginia, no one has ever died from second hand smoke. No, Virginia, just because the government and big pharma ladle out slop buckets full of BS that is no reason to actually believe what they say...regardless of what they are ladling the BS about...

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The War on Drugs
Posted by: peskyfly1 on Nov 30, 2009 7:23 PM   
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The war on drugs has been won by drugs. After having spent a trillion dollars to fight drug use, the results are in. Drugs are now of better quality, taken by more people and less expensive than they used to be. Clearly the conservative (Nixonian) policy on drug use has been an abysmal failure. Is is not time to try something different? How about putting the funds spent on the 'war' into the health care system to help people recover from their addictions instead of sentencing them to the American gulag?

If the anti drug people were genuine, surely they would realize the folly of the current policy.

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Enough is enough, don't we as a nation have more important issues
Posted by: hughesrg on Nov 30, 2009 7:23 PM   
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to deal with? I'm So fucking tired of all the BULLSHIT! Enough already! Oh well, where's my bowl...?

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Adolescents should NOT use any drug...
Posted by: keystone999 on Dec 1, 2009 3:22 AM   
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I am an advocate of legalizing marijuana, but I have 3 kids, all of whom have used pot. My sons developed more of a mental dependence. I chalk that up to a developing body that rapidly adapts to whatever chemicals are added. For my teenagers, it reduced their drive to work or succeed in school. It wasn't until they quit that they began to care about college or work. If they want to try it as adults, that is their business but I won't allow it in my house because it is illegal and not worth the hassle while it is.

That said, I have seen mean, violent drunks, but have never met a mean or violent pothead. Any drug that doesn't lead to violence is better than alcohol.

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Not just our "feds" are addicted but...
Posted by: zowie on Dec 1, 2009 8:42 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5BrPuv9hWo

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