The Big Lies People Tell In Online Dating

July 7th, 2010 by Christian Rudder

Nerds. As we all know, the Internet is a great place to pretend to be someone you're not. For instance, here's me in Second Life having a great time:

Anyhow, in many online situations, self-misrepresentation is totally harmless. Like, who cares if your Halo 3 avatar is taller than you are in real life? Or if flickr thinks you're single when you're really married? But in online dating, where the whole goal is to eventually meet other people in person, creating a false impression is a whole different deal.

People do everything they can in their OkCupid profiles to make themselves seem awesome, and surely many of our users genuinely are. But it's very hard for the casual browser to tell truth from fiction. With our behind-the-scenes perspective, we're able to shed some light on some typical claims and the likely realities behind them.

Let's get started.

"I'm 6 feet tall."

REALITY: People are two inches shorter in real life.

This whole post was inspired by an amusing graph we stumbled across while trying to answer the question Do taller guys have more sex? The answer, to a degree, is yes, and I'll expand on that in a little bit. But in this case what was more interesting than the sex was the (supposed) tallness of the guys.

The male heights on OkCupid very nearly follow the expected normal distribution—except the whole thing is shifted to the right of where it should be. You can see it better when we overlay the implied best fit below (pardon the technical language):

Almost universally guys like to add a couple inches. You can also see a more subtle vanity at work: starting at roughly 5' 8", the top of the dotted curve tilts even further rightward. This means that guys as they get closer to six feet round up a bit more than usual, stretching for that coveted psychological benchmark.

When we looked into the data for women, we were surprised to see height exaggeration was just as widespread, though without the lurch towards a benchmark height:

On a somewhat humbling personal note, I just went back and looked at my own profile, and apparently I list myself at 5' 11". Really, I'm a touch under 5' 10". Hmmm.

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As for whether it even makes sense for people to make such an obvious and easily disproved exaggeration, the jury is out. We've found that taller people, up to a point, have more sex:

But as far as messages go, shorter women actually seem to get more attention:

These are the average weekly unsolicited message totals by height; you can think of these as the number of times a person is "hit on" out of the blue each week on OkCupid. a 5' 4" woman gets 60 more contacts each year than a six-footerThe genders are plotted on different scales because of the eternal fact that men almost always make the first move, so women get many more unsolicited messages.

It's plain from these two charts that women six feet or taller are either less attractive to men or are considered too intimidating to message. The data also raises the interesting possibility that these tall women are much more likely to sleep with a man who does approach them. Compare the 6' 0" woman to her 5' 4" counterpart: the taller woman gets hit on about two-thirds as much, yet has had slightly more sex partners.

"I make $100,000 a year."

REALITY: People are 20% poorer than they say they are.

Apparently, an online dater's imagination is the best performing mutual fund of the last 10 years. Here's what people are saying on OkCupid, versus what their incomes should be:

Use the slider to watch as people exaggerate more as they get older. As you can see, people advertise disproportionately high salaries for themselves. Just to pick a symbolic amount, there are consistently 4× the number of people making $100K a year than there should be.

Note that in formulating the "expected" lines for each age we were very careful to adjust for OkCupid's particular demographics: we compared every individual against the average not just by age but by zip code. Here a breakdown by gender of the exaggeration rates:

A woman may earn 76 cents on the dollar for the same work as a man, but she can fabricate, like, 85 cents no problem.

As a public service, we've decided to make our income calculations available. The following widget will calculate the statistically expected income of your potential matches; you give it a gender, an age, and a zip code, and it'll spit out a salary. Then you can confront your dates about exactly how much money they probably do or don't make. Fun!

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We did a little investigating as to whether a person's stated income had any real effect on his or her online dating experience. Unsurprisingly, we found that it matters a lot, particularly for men. This is a by-age messaging distribution:

These bold colors contain a subtle message: if you're a young guy and don't make much money, cool. If you're 23 or older and don't make much money, go die in a fire. It's not hard to see where the incentive to exaggerate comes from.

"Here's a recent pic."

REALITY: The more attractive the picture, the more likely it is to be out-of-date.

The above picture, for example, was over two years old when it was uploaded. How do we know? Most modern cameras append text tags to the jpgs they take. These tags, called EXIF metadata, specify things like the exposure and f-stop settings, gps information if your camera has it, and, of course, the time and date the photo was taken. This is how programs like iPhoto know when (and sometimes where) you've taken your pictures.

Analyzing this stuff, we found that most of the pictures on OkCupid were of recent vintage; site-wide the median photo age at upload was just 92 days. However, hotter photos were much more likely to be outdated than normal ones. Here's a comparison (the age of a picture below is how old it was when it was uploaded to our site):

As you can see, over a third of the hottest photos on the site are a year old or more. And more than twice as many hot photos are over three years old (12%) as average-looking ones (5%), which makes sense because people are more inclined to cling to the pics that make them look their best

Another useful (if somewhat unorthodox) way to take in this graph is to follow the horizontal gridlines. If you trace out from "20%", for example, you can see that 1 in 5 average-looking photos is at least a year old, meanwhile, among the hot photos, nearly 1 in 5 is at least two years old.

It also turns out that older people also upload older photos:

The upshot here is, if you see a good-looking picture of a man over 30, that photo is very likely to be out-of-date. Not to get personal again, but my own OkCupid photo shows a Burberry-dressed 27 year-old, strumming away on his guitar. Meanwhile, I turn 35 in a couple months and am writing this post in the same shorts and tee-shirt I've been wearing for a week. Time waits for no man, unless that man doesn't update his personal information.

"I'm bisexual."

REALITY: 80% of self-identified bisexuals are only interested in one gender.

OkCupid is a gay- and bi-friendly place and it's not our intention here to call into question anyone's sexual identity. But when we looked into messaging trends by sexuality, we were very surprised at what we found. People who describe themselves as bisexual overwhelmingly message either one sex or the other, not both as you might expect. Site-wide, here's how it breaks out:

This suggests that bisexuality is often either a hedge for gay people or a label adopted by straights to appear more sexually adventurous to their (straight) matches. You can actually see these trends in action in the chart below.

Again, this is just the data we've collected. We'd be very interested in our bisexual users' thoughts on this single-sex-messaging phenomenon, so if you'd like to weigh-in please use the comments section. Please note, everybody, that we don’t assume that bis should be “into both genders equally.” We only assume that they should be into both genders at all. The swaths of red and blue that you see in these sexuality charts represent people who message only one gender. The purple areas are people who send any messages, in whatever proportion, to both men and women.

In this chart, throughout the teens and twenties, the male bisexual population is mostly observably gay men. By the mid-thirties, it seems, most of these men are more comfortable self-identifying as gay and have left the bi population. By the end of our chart, 3 of every 4 bi males on OkCupid are observably straight. Meanwhile, the proportion of men who message both women and other men holds fairly steady.

The proportions for women are more consistent over time:

12% of women under 35 on OkCupid (and the internet in general, I'd wager) self-identify as bi. However, as you can see above, only about 1 in 4 of those women is actually into both guys and girls at the same time. I know this will come as a big letdown to the straight male browsing population: three-fourths of your fantasies are, in fact, fantasies of a fantasy. Like bi men, most bi women are, for whatever reason, not observably bi. The primacy of America's most popular threesome, two dudes and an Xbox, is safe.

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In gathering data for this last section on sexuality, we found so much interesting stuff that we're making it the topic of our next post. We'll look at the messaging, searching, and stalking (!) patterns of gay, bi, and straight people and see what else we can learn about the sexual continuum. Until then, no lie: thanks for reading.

OkCupid's data scientists, Max Shron and Aditya Mukerjee, contributed additional research to this post.
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443 Responses to “The Big Lies People Tell In Online Dating”

  1. TidalMoon says:

    Yes, I’ve met men who had lied in their profiles about their age and their height, and posted way-old photos as well. Too bad you don’t have the data about lying about previous marriages. I once met a man online who told me he’d been married three times. He really had been married nine times!

  2. L says:

    On the bisexuality thing, I think it’s what people are looking to get from OkCupid. If I met more females socially offline, I’d be inclined to send out less messages to women. Unfortunately, it’s much easier for me to pick up men in real life than with women.

    Also, not everyone who is bisexual is 50/50 in their gender preferences. I seem to lean more towards women in most cases as one of my last five relationships was with another man.

    Maybe we should have a slider to indicate “How bisexual are you”

  3. Girl Detective says:

    I know a bi girl on OKCupid who only contacts women because although in RL she likes guys and girls, she doesn’t trust men enough to meet one from the internet.

  4. GRubie says:

    Hey! I OBJECT!!

    Your income calculator says I make 50% of what I actually make. However, for a man it calculates my salary EXACTLY! Is it sexist?? Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that I work in a typically male dominated career?

  5. becca says:

    since bi is the only option other than straight or gay, there will be a HUGE variety of people who write bi and dont identify that way. what about putting queer as an option? i personally date boys and girls (and people who dont identify either way) pretty equally but am much more likely to message girls because the guys can be pretty creepy. and while you are at it, there should probably be another option like transgendered or doesnt identify as either gender. its a dating site, and labels are important to people

  6. spartc says:

    I’m a bi male, and I’m equal-opportunity. I message men, women, and transfolk of various kinds. We do need more categories.

    I’ve dated a few women from here, as so many have suggested the odds are just better: about 10 women open to men for every man open to men, as in life.

    But I’ve also dated FTM transmen and gay men from here.

    I live in a medium-sized town (~80,000) with about 2 degrees of separation. Most of the compatible bi poly folk I’ve already dated or have ruled out.

    So I set my search criteria for the most elusive unicorn of all, in my experience: other bi men.

    Heck, I’ve dated more lesbians than bi men. And again, I’m a man.

    If there’s one pet peeve that has been confirmed for me by this analysis, it’s this: most bi-identified men are on here looking for women.

    So while I prefer to date other bisexual poly people, I usually end up dating monosexual monogamous people who are open-minded enough to share this bi guy with others of any gender.

    Still, I keep the faith that there is another bi poly guy out there for me. Somewhere :)

  7. Oblaat_127 says:

    Odd that I am one of only 23% of bisexual women to message both genders. I do think a lot of people lie and say that they are bi just because some potential partners might find them more alluring for saying so. Honestly, it’s frustrating to me. Often times I will message a gal and not get a reply, and so it negatively affects my hunt for a “special someone”.

  8. Mark says:

    RE: photos

    Younger guys are more likely to have newer photos because younger guys are more likely to carry hi-tech phones that photograph.

  9. I was really diappointed when I met my date. His pic was an older one and it didn’t even look like him, down to no hair…. Eeek! What a shocker! That didn’t work out. Now I’m about to meet someone else , it scares the crap out of me! Why can’t people be real about themselves? Everything I’ve posted to my profile IS real. I even updated with a recent new pic. Am I a weirdo???

  10. Dana "reddivamama" says:

    I am NOT in my 20′s,am considered attractive & definitely bi. Frankly I resent the straight girls using bi for “hotness factor” I GET more messages [and matches] from guys than women. I am interested in both. Messages to matches with Gay women, i have learned in my 4 months on OKC experience usually result in discrimination or putdowms for being bi instead of a “real Queer” One gal I dated even added “no bi girls message please to her profile after our date [Our date seemed to go well & was to a gay club but my history did come up.] So I am understandably wary of messaging the Gay women I’m matched with. Occasionally there’s a bi match…..i’ll message her if she appeals. Maybe OKC might consider matching more bi with bi.

    Likewise , I message guys that interest me. A large percentage are looking at nothing but bi in my profile & are seeking fantasy, Easy to weed out. This does not speak to ALL men.

    I have met a few genuinely compatable guys and one compatible bi woman through OKC, but it’s a LOT of weeding out,

  11. James says:

    @AW: “What about the lies people tell about their age. I’ve been out with/looked at profiles of men who are definitely lying about their age by about 3-7 years.”

    I have to ask: why do you care? If you communicate with a person and find you have common interests & mutual attraction, are you then going to drop him/her because of what the calendar says? Or maybe not even look at an otherwise perfect match because you’re making assumptions based on that calendar date? If you are, seems to me you’ve just answered your own question.

    Same goes for most of this stuff. I don’t bother to keep track of my age, ’cause I got fed up with people telling me to act it – by which they meant sit & watch TV rather than hike, bike, & ski. Haven’t been weighed since the last time I had a physical, but the belt’s at the same notch it has been at for years, which is good enough. As for income… well, it’s not how much I make that matters, but how much I have left after paying the bills each month.

    You might have a lot better success if you stop obsessing about exactitude in minor details – do you want my weight after I’ve sweated off a few pounds with a day of biking, or after I’ve eaten dinner? – and focus on the person instead.

  12. Janet says:

    I identify myself as bisexual but, that doesn’t necessarily mean that I date both genders.
    This is my dilemma : I am more physically attracted to women, but mentally I am attracted to men. So I date men. I would think that (if I were single) if the right girl came a long, I would have no problem dating her. But, as it stands, no woman has captured my interests. I have had relations with females, but it didn’t go far beyond that.
    Maybe more people are in the same state of mind I am, or maybe they are faking it. Who knows?

  13. Bob says:

    I’m not single but happened to be directed to this very, very, enlightening blog article.

    I have to agree with the comments made by cdfh about how the pool of available ‘hot’ photographs increases as you get older. I am 30 and I actually have very few very recent good photos of myself, I currently use a two year old company PR shot or a four year old holiday shot if I need to have a picture of myself for something like a social networking profile. Not so much a lie as the best photo I have of myself, although there is a good 9 year old photo of me that makes me look gorgeous. ;-)

    Also on cdfh’s theme I observed many years ago that there is probably an equation of viability when it comes to age. I observed that the younger you are the tighter the age range of potentially successful mates but that this region has an almost predictable expansion over time (age matters less as you get older). Many people say that ‘age does not matter’, it does significantly affect the ‘viability’ of a relationship if not initial attraction and of course there are exceptions to every rule.

    I would be interested in seeing if there is a correlation between age difference and relationship viability?

    Bob

  14. Aruna says:

    Wondering if there is as strong of a correlation between income and messages responded to. After all, previous posts have shown in male-female interaction on this site most of it is initiated by the guy. Frankly, I don’t think most women on this site are that shallow, but I also don’t think they initiate too many of the first contacts.

  15. Sean says:

    I’m 6’1″, generally girls I’ve met in the past have thought I was taller, like closer to 6’3″(only in heels). I assumed it was because other guys they’ve known lied about their height. Now it all makes sense…

  16. Adam says:

    As usual, OKTrends hits a home-run in interesting population analysis.

    For my early 20s I did indeed identify as Bisexual in my profile here, as a “hedge” to protect myself from gay stigma and premature public “outing” to people who might identify me by photo. As I became more comfortable with myself I changed my sexuality to gay, but I do miss the great correspondence with women. When identifying as bisexual I received a lot more messages from women than men, and their messages were more interesting and thorough.

    In past OKTrends reports I enjoyed the presentation of information, in true light-hearted OK Cupid fashion, but I was disappointed with the hetero-centrism, greatly look forward to the reports to come. The site has always been inclusive and a great way to mingle!

    And I AM 6’4″, but most my pictures are at 2+ years old. Busted!

  17. Tigger says:

    On the height thing (not sure if it was already mentioned, but I’m not going to look through >400 comments), have you taken into account that older people are shorter? The average age of the okcupid population is probably below that of the average American, therefore they’d be taller. I’ll also take this as a prompt to ask you to fix the metric-imperial conversion, it’s a bit off.

  18. Alex says:

    This was SO INTERESTING!!! Thanks!

  19. haptotrope says:

    I’d be curious to see the timeframe that the bisexuals are being evaluated? the life of the account? a few months? I have found many times that its often a situation where I have gotten bipolar about my bisexuality… and only actively sought one type of partner… even if they bi-label speaks to the wide range of life-experience.

  20. S says:

    “As a 5’9″ woman, I’ve discovered in my own personal practice that if I want to date someone taller than me, I have to assume anyone saying their 5″11 or 5’10 is shorter than me…But seriously — how do these guys think a material lie like this that can actually be proven bodes well for them? Just tell the truth – embrace who you are!”

    Right so you’re saying that people should tell the truth but you will assume they are lying in any case, so they might as well.

  21. Sergio says:

    I am surprised you didn’t list other things which are big lies on the site: Like somebody who says their ready for a relationship, but in fact is still playing games, or the fact that many people while claiming to be single are still involved with somebody, i.e “I want my cake and eat it too.” syndrome. The blog post a lot of old news that is well known.

  22. Jay says:

    I list myself as gay and message the opposite sex now and then anyway. What’s that make me? There needs to be a ‘queer’ option.

    A lot contributes to who messages which sex most, it’s not nearly as simple as whether they are ‘really’ bisexual or not.

  23. chris says:

    >>I have to ask: why do you care? If you communicate with a person and find you have common interests & mutual attraction, are you then going to drop him/her because of what the calendar says?

    No, James. I think you’re missing the point. Whether age/income/height is crucial to a good ‘love match’ or if they are superficial details isn’t being debated. She’s going to drop him/her because they lied.

  24. Judd says:

    I think if people want real results u need to just b real and dont judge by looks or money get on and talk to people wich is better having someone who thinks alike that u can share everymoment of ur life with or someone who looks good but hates u lets face it both would b great buck age height and income r all just numbers do u want to b a number and fellas just be honest they will find out eventually and hate u for lying and u will b alone once again

  25. URNemesis says:

    I came to this conclusion years ago. People on online sites don’t tell you who they are, They tell you who they wish that they were. I’ve learned to take self descriptions with a huge grain of salt.

    I try to tell the whole gritty ugly truth about who I am because I’m looking for friends in the traditional sense of the word ie NO “Benefits”. I have no stake in lying.

    As for the yearly salary? Is that before or after taxes? I list net pay.

    The stats are the best part of this site. I learned about OKC via my stats class in college.It’s g33ky good fun.

  26. France says:

    It was interesting to see that data on bisexual msg patterns, and here’s my own experience. I identify as a bisexual woman but am rarely emotionally attracted to men, just physically attracted to them. I am very much leaning towards women in my bisexuality spectrum, I’d say my attraction towards women versus men is around 75/25. That said, I don’t feel like identifying as a lesbian is being honest with myself, because even if I never have a relationship with a man in my life, I would still have that attraction. I would be fine with being called a lesbian if that was what I actually was, as it would make dating lesbians easier without them thinking all the stereotypes associated with bisexuals. I personally am not using the label “Bisexual” in order to save myself from being thought of as gay.

  27. Bi the Way says:

    Let’s clear this up. Just because you kiss girls at the bar when you are wasted does not mean you are bisexual or even bi-curious. It just means you’re slutty.

  28. mustangirl16 says:

    I agree 100%, these women are just looking for attention in the wrong way!!

  29. a_cup_lover_200 says:

    Re: bi-sexuality.

    It has been my experience that many women feel that “bisexual” means “gay”, even when the two labels are offered as alternatives. Perhaps this accounts partially for the apparent deception.

  30. Christian says:

    Weird, I’ve always strove to be as honest as I can be on my profile. I’ve met a few women for dates that turned out to be quite different than their photo’s and profile implied and I was immediately turned off as I felt like they deceived me. For most people on dating sites surely the goal is to meet someone in the flesh and they’re going to find out exactly what you look like etc… and be disapointed if you’ve lied

  31. Brokk says:

    My wife is bi-sexual by her own definition. However, she’s had very few relationships with other women. She would like to have more, but finds it difficult meeting women. So she tried out OKCupid. Her only interest here was to meet women. She already has a guy in her life. However, that doesn’t mean she was lying.

    Bisexual people *do* have preferences. I would be surprised if there wasn’t a trend toward one gender or another. Most bisexuals I know tend to go in phases, where they are more into one gender or the other. Trying to get something specific out of a relationship. That doesn’t mean they are closed to their non-preferred gender, but they are heavily biased against them.

  32. B says:

    Wow. Although I guess I’m not entirely surprised. So far I haven’t lied in my profile. I’m every single last one of my 5’8″, and that’s BEFORE the boots I usually wear (which add about an inch or so).

    As for income, it’s one of those questions I always decline to answer. I can usually get an idea of how much financial capability someone has by reading their profile, much in the same way that I can guess someone’s education level. If I see ALL CAPS, lack of punctuation, a great deal of “text speak,” or many misspellings, I assume they dropped out of high school, or at best dropped out of community college.

    I’m surprised that “Body Type” wasn’t covered. I’d think that’s something that many will lie on. It’s almost as if “Curvy” or “A few extra pounds” now means obese, while “Average” could mean average or chubby.

    Drinking could be lied about too. If someone gets obliterated on the weekend after 10+ drinks on each night, I don’t think that qualifies as “Socially.”

  33. Nina Pratt says:

    I’m a queer woman, interested in dating only queer women, and way older than most of your members: 62.

    Of my friends who are also on OKC, women I know pretty well, I note that lying about age, weight, income, outness, and through photos is rife.

    An excuse for us oldsters who post pics: some of us don’t own digital cameras, and depend on young relatives to take snaps of us when we visit, sometimes as rarely as once every few years. No wonder so many of us have ancient photos! I certainly do. I think only one is a year old. The rest have grown long and hoary beards.

  34. MalevolentDragon says:

    I’m a self-proclaimed bi male, who has (so far) only messaged women. I have received a few messages from other men, and not responded for a variety of reasons:

    First, I’m far more into women than men. I still identify myself as “bi” because I have no problems having sex with men. I just prefer women.

    Second, I’m EXTREMELY picky when it comes to men I find attractive. I like guys who are not flamboyant or effeminate, nor are they jockular extremes of testosterone. Basically guys just like me. I have found very, very few men on this site who seem to fit this category for me.

    Third, I would date or sleep with men, but never have a long-term committed romantic relationship with one, as I now have with my girlfriend. And I have been in a couple of OkCupid sponsored relationships where outside dating was not allowed, which means any men who sent me a message during that time got little effort on my part. :p

    Fourth (and final), my GF and I are looking for men who would join both of us in the bedroom, which means I am not sending messages to gay men whom I think will have no interest in her. Again, this limits my acceptance criteria tremendously, and there are not a lot of options in the conservative state I live in.

    So, I challenge that I’m just using the label to “appear more sexually adventurous to my (straight) matches”. On the contrary, I would argue that it might be true for women, but is the opposite for men. I think it’s quite likely women are LESS inclined to respond to my messages BECAUSE they think I’m some wild, sex-crazed guy. But it could also be because I’m already in a committed relationship. :p

    And while a slider of some sort to indicate “how bi you are” might be a better way preventing misunderstandings about labels, anyone who pokes through my Tests will notice I have taken several that do just that. They all label me as “mostly straight, slightly bi” which is how I label myself. Should I list myself as “Bisexual” on OkC? Depends on opinion.

  35. rebelwclue says:

    Very interesting but obvious. Women do prefer men 6′ tall regardless of whether the woman herself is short or tall. There are also stigmas against men that are too short and women that are too tall just as there are stigmas against women that are too fat or too old. Society rewards stereotypes. A recent article showed employers hire attractive people more often and other research shows taller men having higher paying salaries. So is it really that shocking people lie about their height, salary, or appearance online? What would be shocking is the most successful OK Cupid daters were fat, short, and had no job.

  36. q says:

    I agree with divamoma in that bi women do encounter some resistance with the lesbian sector. I have dated straight men, bi women, and lesbians. The women that I contact on ock are more likely to get back to me if they are also bi. Even if its to say thanks but no. Men who message bi women just because they are bi don’t get it, and usually don’t go anywhere.

  37. Rick says:

    Wow, talk about the men not telling the truth about height, what is the demographics show on woman not telling the truth about their age?

    Woman in general have always been given slack on their age, but come on when you say you are 43 and your pictures convey that you LOOK 53, someone isn’t telling the truth.

    I ran into a problem because of being single for several years I had NO current photographs. We somehow forget to take / use the camera when we go somewhere. Finally figured out how to get a couple and posted them.

    Tell the truth —— it’s gonna come out eventually anyways

  38. Simon LeClerk says:

    I am one of those guys who identifies as “bi” on OKC, even though I’m pretty much not. But it’s not because I’m gay. On the contrary, I’ve never even fooled around with a guy, much less had sex or a relationship with one. I identify this way because:
    1). Even though I have never actually been interested in a particular actual man, homosexual activities occasionally play a role in my fantasy life (mostly in multiple-partner scenarios) so who’s to say?
    2). My sexual preferences are out of the norm (BDSM/kinky/poly) and I identify more with the queer community than the straight community. Dan Savage talked in a recent podcast about “mostly straight guys who identify as queer” and was all for it, because the term Queer is evolving to mean someone who is out of the sexual mainstream, rather than just what gender they prefer to have sex with. Since there is no “queer” option on OKC, I choose bi.
    3). It acts as a filter. I’m starting to doubt this reason after reading this essay, but here’s the logic–I don’t want to date bigots, and if a woman is not interested in someone because he is bi, than I’m probably not interested in her. The problem with this, it seems, is that women who filter out “bi” guys on OKC probably do so because most of the “bi” guys are actually gay, and they don’t want to waste their time.

    So I will enthusiastically through my hat in the ring with those who want a Queer option, even though it could be a little confusing–those of us on the sexually atypical side of things are used to ambiguity, not to mention adventure. Along those lines, I would really like to see a way to address the issue of polyamory on OKC as well. It’s not even necessary to find a place to put “poly” or “non-monogamous”–just allow users to search for folks who list as “available” instead of only single or in a relationship.

    p.s. regarding the comments by “bi the way”–what’s wrong with sluts? I love sluts.

  39. medicinewheel says:

    I’m surprised no one brought up the obvious question – how about OKCupid’s code geeks write up a EXIF Metatag date and time check/display? That way the actual date of the photo can be promptly displayed underneath after uploading. This wouldn’t reveal any of the GPS coordinates. And they obviously already have this ability if they were able to produce these stats. Finally, if no EXIF date exists due to intentional or unintentional means, that would naturally be a large warning (no pun intended).

    Of course, someone could falsify the date by changing it in the manner I describe below. The date and time stamp is not binary or encrypted. It’s just text.

    I would check the photos myself for such dates but OKCupid rewrites the image data using gd-jpeg v1.0 when the photo is uploaded and resized. You can do this yourself if you simply open up the photo in a text editor and look for a date and time stamp in the format:

    2010:06:18 10:12:30

    Try this on an original digital photo you took yourself.

    Personally, I date my photos in the captions. I’ve met two women on OKCupid that looked *nothing* like they did in their photos. I can honestly say that absolutely kills first impressions.

  40. Hannah says:

    I’m one of those girls who lists as bi but only messages girls. In my case it’s because I started this account for the purpose of finding a girl to have fun with, along with my boyfriend. If I were single and didn’t have such a specific purpose I’d message both sexes. From my experience many MANY bi girls on the site already have a “real-life” male significant other and are branching out.

  41. Derek says:

    I feel like there’s a lot of data missing here… Where are you getting this “true” information from? The only evidence given that people lie about their height comes from comparing charts of OkC users and the average public, which seems like an fallacy. Wouldn’t an equally plausible explanation be that taller people use OkCupid?

    And since it’s already been said better, I’ll just add my agreement that it makes a big difference if a bi-sexual person is in a relationship or not when looking at who they’re primarily messaging.

  42. scQue says:

    Thx, guys! (Not.) My profile is pretty current, my photos are within the year, I admit that my income is way lower than average and I message people I find interesting (probably less than I should–but, hey, I’m antisocial)… Now everyone’s gonna be questioning my validity. I mean, it doesn’t matter: I know who I am. But still….

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